#2252: Oct 4th 2021 at 8:23:59 AM
If you want experience with just RVB however, I can point you no further than his "BREAKDOWN" of The Shisno Paradox Episode 13. For the longest time, he'd been bemoaning the season for deciding to focus on "Gods" rather than AI, and spent most prior breakdowns doing nothing but complaining about them. This episode however revealed that the so called "Gods" weren't actually Gods, but just sufficiently advanced AI. While you'd think he'd be happy about that since it would go back to what he wanted it to be... nope. He pretty much sounds like he's on the verge of a mental breakdown over this of all things.
Now, I had to rewatch that breakdown so I could transcribe his bullshit, so I need to go now and watch something funny so I can get his bullshit out of my head again.
It has to do with his attitude in regards to various things. Most of my experience with him has more to do with his RWBY content, but I've got experience with his RVB content too. I'll put the non-RVB stuff in a folder in case you don't want to read it.
Non-RVB Eruption Fang Bullshit
But if I had to point to a good indicator of why he's an asshole, I recommend his breakdowns for RWBY Volume 6 Episodes 11 & 12, gen:Lock Episode 4, and "An Honest Opinion Regarding Bumblebee".
If you don't want to watch those videos though, here's a summary.
There's also the fact he's a blatant hypocrite. One of the biggest criticisms of any show he can have is them ignoring the Show, Don't Tell rule, which is a fair enough criticism of any work. But then he makes an entire video praising RWBY: The Official Manga for ignoring that rule and bothering to tell people about relationships, making it come across like he was looking for an excuse to say the manga was better.
If you don't want to watch those videos though, here's a summary.
- His "breakdown" episodes are meant to be synopsis/reviews for the episodes in question. Problem with these ones though:
- He labelled the RWBY ones as "ANGRY BREAKDOWN" and "RANT" respectively. Why? Because he got pissed off that Adam Taurus was killed off in those two episodes. The two episodes mainly amount to him complaining about the plot not going the way he wanted it to, how Yang was anything but a complete wreck claiming she could only be that due to her PTSD, how they only killed Adam to please the Bumblebee shippers and that Blake and Yang were now "cold blooded murderers" for killing Adam, and overhyping Adam by claiming he should have required all of the heroes fighting him to take down while saying only someone of Qrow's level would be able to beat him.
- His gen:Lock video had him go on a tangent about "forced diversity" and how they were trying too hard to appeal to the LGBTQ+ crowd, just because one of the main characters, Val, was revealed to be gender fluid and had to explain the concept to the Japanese Kazu.
- As for the Bumblebee video... yeah, that video proved he was a homophobic asshole who Can't Take Criticism. The disclaimer of the video alone is enough to show how idiotic he is:
EruptionFang: Due to unpersonal bias' I play towards, I do not care about the ship as a whole rather how it is treated from both the audience and the writers and through the impact of what their relationship has on the story as opposed to them just being lesbians. There, I saved you like ten minutes. Post your comment and leave.
- And the example comment he put to represent the "haters" said "YOU HOMOPHOBIC PIECE OF SHIT. YOU'RE OPINION DOESN'T MATTER". While I couldn't bring myself to watch the video any further than that, others who have watched it have pointed out that he was blatantly ignoring context and framing things to suit his own narrative, claiming a relationship between the two was, once again, "forced diversity", that it doesn't work because they're both main characters, and failing to even recognize a thing called "bisexuality" since he claims the writers can't decide if Blake is straight or gay, all while making various homophobic comments.
There's also the fact he's a blatant hypocrite. One of the biggest criticisms of any show he can have is them ignoring the Show, Don't Tell rule, which is a fair enough criticism of any work. But then he makes an entire video praising RWBY: The Official Manga for ignoring that rule and bothering to tell people about relationships, making it come across like he was looking for an excuse to say the manga was better.
If you want experience with just RVB however, I can point you no further than his "BREAKDOWN" of The Shisno Paradox Episode 13. For the longest time, he'd been bemoaning the season for deciding to focus on "Gods" rather than AI, and spent most prior breakdowns doing nothing but complaining about them. This episode however revealed that the so called "Gods" weren't actually Gods, but just sufficiently advanced AI. While you'd think he'd be happy about that since it would go back to what he wanted it to be... nope. He pretty much sounds like he's on the verge of a mental breakdown over this of all things.
EruptionFang: And Thank. Fucking. Christ. Is what I would say if the problem was solved! Yeah, AI's, 100%, without a doubt, no questions asked, is better than Gods. But what does that make Chrovos, he who controls time? Sure as hell sounds like a God to me! All that happened here is that five Gods, has now been reduced to one. It wasn't the amount of Gods that was the problem, it was the fact that there were Gods in the first place. And the problem here is, they're still practically Gods. They can still do unprecedented acts. Just because they're "AI" doesn't mean they've been playing by the rules of AI.
Now yeah, I know, these are not human AI, they're not what the Alpha was, these are Monitors, they are Forerunner AI. Ancient Aliens that were incredibly technologically advanced. Whether or not Chrovos is revealed to be a Forerunner is unknown, highly likely they won't use the term, but you know what I mean. The problem that arises here, is that Santa is a Forerunner AI. Been alive for over a thousand years, logic stands, he is one of them. But Santa never gave off the impression he was anything other than an advanced AI. I get it, the Cosmic Power's "schtick" was to act like Gods and pretend, but that doesn't make they are capable of any less godlike. They can still bring forth beings from other worlds and years.
It makes Episode 11 the most confusing of them all, they can't affect the living, so why offer them "immortality" if you can't do it. Doesn't that just put you at risk of exposing yourself? And on top of that, how was Tucker made large if Atlus is blocked from affecting him. He just made a hardlight copy of a really big Tucker? You don't think he would have noticed that? Maybe he altered Tucker's perception to make him think he grew big, but, oh, no, still can't affect the living! Upon the reveal, it has already broken it's own rules!
Santa, despite his capabilities, acted like a Forerunner AI is known to be. Extremely dedicated to his one role he was assigned for, and if an outbreak happened, he had the ability to "purge" all sentient life on Chorus. That's exactly what Forerunner AI, mostly Monitors, are known to act like. But these guys are just freeballing it, doing whatever they feel.
So Atlus goes on to explain that Chrovos influenced Loco to build a time machine, so that he could be capable of grabbing Donut. Donut exclaims it was by accident he was taken, to which Atlus says "Everything he does is on purpose". So you're telling me that Chrovos knew that the Blues and Reds had a grudge on Freelancers, and by going on a vengeance fueled killing spree would indirectly frame the Reds and Blues, bringing the two face to face, inevitably resulting in the death of Loco, the guy he's been implanting dreams and inspirations into, shortly after activating the machine, so he could grab Donut? He knew all that? And he's not a God? Being a god is the only explanation for how he knew this would all happen. But if he is a God, then the AI reveal is completely pointless, because they're still Gods in the show!
Okay... let's break this down in order.
Now yeah, I know, these are not human AI, they're not what the Alpha was, these are Monitors, they are Forerunner AI. Ancient Aliens that were incredibly technologically advanced. Whether or not Chrovos is revealed to be a Forerunner is unknown, highly likely they won't use the term, but you know what I mean. The problem that arises here, is that Santa is a Forerunner AI. Been alive for over a thousand years, logic stands, he is one of them. But Santa never gave off the impression he was anything other than an advanced AI. I get it, the Cosmic Power's "schtick" was to act like Gods and pretend, but that doesn't make they are capable of any less godlike. They can still bring forth beings from other worlds and years.
It makes Episode 11 the most confusing of them all, they can't affect the living, so why offer them "immortality" if you can't do it. Doesn't that just put you at risk of exposing yourself? And on top of that, how was Tucker made large if Atlus is blocked from affecting him. He just made a hardlight copy of a really big Tucker? You don't think he would have noticed that? Maybe he altered Tucker's perception to make him think he grew big, but, oh, no, still can't affect the living! Upon the reveal, it has already broken it's own rules!
Santa, despite his capabilities, acted like a Forerunner AI is known to be. Extremely dedicated to his one role he was assigned for, and if an outbreak happened, he had the ability to "purge" all sentient life on Chorus. That's exactly what Forerunner AI, mostly Monitors, are known to act like. But these guys are just freeballing it, doing whatever they feel.
So Atlus goes on to explain that Chrovos influenced Loco to build a time machine, so that he could be capable of grabbing Donut. Donut exclaims it was by accident he was taken, to which Atlus says "Everything he does is on purpose". So you're telling me that Chrovos knew that the Blues and Reds had a grudge on Freelancers, and by going on a vengeance fueled killing spree would indirectly frame the Reds and Blues, bringing the two face to face, inevitably resulting in the death of Loco, the guy he's been implanting dreams and inspirations into, shortly after activating the machine, so he could grab Donut? He knew all that? And he's not a God? Being a god is the only explanation for how he knew this would all happen. But if he is a God, then the AI reveal is completely pointless, because they're still Gods in the show!
- Firstly, he is blatantly ignoring what Atlus said Chrovos was in the beginning of the episode.
Atlus: Without time, there is no beginning, so there was nothing before "The Word". — The Word became complicated, expanded, unfolded, and birthed the first of the primal forces of our father, Chrovos. He who could control time. — Chrovos set himself on a great undertaking, a project of galactic proportions. He created the Cosmic Powers and enslaved us to do his bidding. — Some things are beyond even our infinite wisdom. We only know our small part in the grand design.
- Even if only going by information that was readily available at the time of the episode, what Atlus said is a pretty big clue to the idea that Chrovos is not a god when paired with the revelation they are AI's. That there was no records of origin for Chrovos, that he just came to be and created the Cosmic Powers. The fact that he, a "God", needed to create AI to perpetuate a God Guise, and that was their only purpose they were aware of, raises a few flags as to the idea of him being a God. If anything, it makes him sound less like a God, and more like a time traveler, someone who just popped out of nowhere by travelling to the beginning of time.
- He acts as if the Cosmic Powers are definitively Forerunner AI and therefore have to play by the "rules" of AI. Except it's never stated they were. Just because they were in Monitor bodies doesn't mean they were Forerunner AI's. Reminder that RVB uses the assets of the Halo games but they don't necessarily adhere to the lore of the Halo games, and can easily repurpose assets for the sake of their own story. Santa is a good example, since despite being a "Forerunner AI", he uses a model of a Sangheili Elite, whereas if he were an actual Forerunner AI, he'd not need to use said model. He's conflating them with Forerunner AI when there is nothing in canon to suggest that's what they are.
- Episode 11 is the one where I can say he has a point, but he does offer an explanation before immediately dismissing it: altering Tuckers' perception. He claims the Cosmic Powers can't do that because they can't affect mortals, except, since they're AI's and the Reds and Blues wear armor with storage units for AI, they can mess with the armor to affect Tucker's perception.
- He mistakenly conflates the Purge with something Santa can do. Except that's not something he can do. The Purge is something only someone with a Great Key can do. It's why the entire point of that subplot in Season 13 was the Pirates trying to claim one of the Great Keys so they can activate it, with Santa outright saying he is merely a neutral party in all this. And he wasn't extremely devoted to his "one role", since Season 15 established that he became the personal AI for Kimball, the two considering each other friends, and that even beforehand, while he was meant to be an impartial observer, he still favored Tucker over Felix, to the point he spoke with Locus and got him to complete his Heel–Face Turn so as to help the Reds and Blues out.
- He acts like being a god is the only way for Chrovos to know all that was gonna happen, and that if he's a god, then the AI may as well be Gods too since they're of "divine" origin. Except he blatantly ignores another explanation for how Chrovos knew this would happen: the Stable Time Loop. Something the setting had already established via Jax's lesson on paradox's.
Jax: Most films deal with the problem by creating a closed loop. Like La Jetee, like Primer, like Kyle Reese impregnating Sarah Connor, or maybe like Sarge telling himself to stab Achilles in the foot. Everything that you do in the past is part of the same timeline. This sort of travel makes the most logical sense but there are some really troubling free-will issues.
- The fact that this is the one paradox method Jax doesn't outright reject is the shows way of priming us that this is the method of time travel the show engages in. Now, an obvious counterpoint would be the idea that the Reds and Blues did change history, like all the photos Dylan sent to Carolina suggested. The Stable Time Loop however often suggests that people won't notice certain details until they are needed to notice them for the sake of maintaining the time loop, hence the "free-will issues", since this type of paradox follows predestination. Warp from the original Teen Titans explains it pretty clearly:
Warp: I went back in time to steal this because history says it disappeared. And history says it disappeared, because I went back to steal it. Past. Present. Future. It's all written in stone, my dear. And nothing you do can ever change it.
- And that line of thought would give you a Chrovos that wasn't a god, but a time traveler, who went back to the past, created the Cosmic Powers, sent the images to Loco, and took Donut, because he knew what already happened. And skipping forward a bit, the reveal at the end of Singularity confirmed this, since Genkins went back to the beginning of the universe, lost his mind, became Chrovos, and created the Cosmic Powers, before being whacked by the Club completely made him Chrovos.
- The fact that this is the one paradox method Jax doesn't outright reject is the shows way of priming us that this is the method of time travel the show engages in. Now, an obvious counterpoint would be the idea that the Reds and Blues did change history, like all the photos Dylan sent to Carolina suggested. The Stable Time Loop however often suggests that people won't notice certain details until they are needed to notice them for the sake of maintaining the time loop, hence the "free-will issues", since this type of paradox follows predestination. Warp from the original Teen Titans explains it pretty clearly:
Now, I had to rewatch that breakdown so I could transcribe his bullshit, so I need to go now and watch something funny so I can get his bullshit out of my head again.
Edited by RebelFalcon on Oct 4th 2021 at 2:54:54 PM
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#2253: Nov 30th 2021 at 7:40:51 AM
One thing I notice in RWBY and RVB is how the characters and actors playing them seem to parallel each other.
- Jaune and Felix (voiced by Miles Luna)
- cocky ladies man with no skill who gradually learns to be a better person and friend
- Jaune's most recent actions have been him staying the course and doing his best to keep tension from tearing his friends apart.
- Jaune has an emotional breakdown over Cinder taunting them over the death she's caused.
- Jaune's most recent actions have been him staying the course and doing his best to keep tension from tearing his friends apart.
- cocky mercenary with tons of skill we see flirting with teammates and gradually losing his cool head to commit even greater atrocities.
- Felix's final moments are betraying his partner and former allies.
- Felix loses his cool yelling at the protagonists because they outsmarted him.
- Felix's final moments are betraying his partner and former allies.
- cocky ladies man with no skill who gradually learns to be a better person and friend
- Carolina and Pyrrha (voiced by Jen Brown)
- cocky Freelancer who never cared about friends and was obsessed with being the best, but met a wall she couldn't climb, and whose only ally was an optimistic coworker who died long before a romance could develop. Carolina carries on with the memories of her former teammates and humility gained from observing their actions and failings.
- humble Huntress who always wanted friends but felt isolated for most of her life due to being perceived as the best, viewed as the "invincible girl," and whose only ally was an optimistic classmate. They shared a brief romance before she died. Though not intentional, Pyrrha "did her duty" as a huntress and went to fight the Big Bad on her own, and also fought an entire team by herself.
- both got denied a conclusion to a potential rivalry (Texas and Mercury) with someone who was a little "different" from their peers (Texas being an AI and Mercury lacking a Semblance).
But the one that tickles me right now that I just noticed was Washington and Ozpin (Shannon Mc Cormick):
- I feel like David and Ozpin are thematic counterparts to each other
Like, tell me this isn't everything Ozpin would/probably should have said to Salem. Ozpin has immense regret and self-loathing over his inability to stop Salem? David counters the Reds and Blues desire to abuse time travel by owning all of his mistakes and telling them to own theirs as well.
- Ozpin is working in the service of his world's gods whereas Washington ends up fighting the Cosmic Powers/an ancient god-like being called Chrovos
- Ozpin was injured and returned as a fraction of his former self, while Washington was injured and suffered a drastic personality change - Ozpin is considerably more okay with this than Wash was initially.
- lengthy history with the series' primary conspiracy (Ozpin's history with Salem, Washington's involvement in Project Freelancer)
- Big Good perceived as a Big Bad by the main cast (Yang and Jaune towards Ozpin, most of the Reds and Blues towards Wash)
- survived falls from heights that surely would have killed them otherwise (Oscar using magic to survive his fall in Volume 7, Washington receiving help from Doc in Season 8)
- Ozpin is the headmaster of an elite combat school whereas Washington is the "lowest ranked" Freelancer - both end up being the Almighty Janitor doing more to fight back against Salem and The Meta than anybody else by going against conventional procedure.
Crazy coincidences.
Edited by FOFD on Nov 30th 2021 at 10:46:28 AM
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#2254: Dec 1st 2021 at 5:31:23 PM
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I don't think that I'd agree with all of those parallels, but I do remember pointing out that Shannon McCormick was brought back for RWBY Volume 8 and RvB Zero just to have his two characters tortured. At the same time.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Dec 1st 2021 at 1:32:09 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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#2256: Apr 3rd 2022 at 8:22:04 AM
So, looking past the corporate speak, basically ZERO was an attempt to address the mixed reception of the Shisno Trilogy, but they chose the wrong aspect to focus on, which just made things worse. So because of the negative reception to ZERO, they're scrapping that plotline but keeping Shatter Squad on the backburner in case they find a use for them in the future. The original 17 seasons being referred to as "Legacy RvB" would suggest they are not planning on returning to the Blood Gulch Crew outside of addressing some plot threads that were Left Hanging, and instead are looking to create an Expanded Universe with a likely new cast, which they already tried to do, and failed, with Shatter Squad.
Got an update. Four days ago, Sean Hinz, one of Rooster Teeth's producers, released a Tweet stating that, due to the negative reception of Red Vs Blue Zero, the Shatter Squad plotline has been scrapped. For the full message and in the event you don't want to click the link:
HERE
Good afternoon everyone and happy (almost) anniversary,
Hard to believe it, but already 6 months have gone by since our last update on the roadmap for Red vs. Blue and a lost has happened since then. In that time span we released all 11 episodes of Family Shatters, finished the Complete run of the first 17 seasons and began to lay the groundwork for the larger RvB Universe. Along the way we've been working to better understand the bond we have with our audience. This letter is an attempt to add clarity to the last two years of production, and introduce a roadmap for the next two yars. So let's clear the air and start right off with Red vs. Blue ZERO.
ZERO was an incredibly ambitious production, pushing the furthest away from the machinima look since season 14, while also building a show in an experimental pipeline. With the Shisno Trilogy receiving mixed reviews, we saw an opportunity to do something different. Create something "RvB adjacent" that on the surface would feature similar tenants of the brand, like the iconic Halo armor, found family dynamics, and nods to the previous seasons. Then wrap it up in a new aesthetic, with comedic elements and big action set pieces. We knew it would be difficult and then surprise! We were also suddenly navigating a pandemic. Regardless, we absolutely tried to make the best of a challenging set of circumstances and I know for a fact the team put their whole hearts into the season.
Rooster Teeth is about the art of storytelling and giving opportunities to emerging voices. Sometimes those stories resonate with our audience and something truly magical can happen. RvB is evidence of this with over 19 years featuring different creatives, different concepts, and each with their own story to tell. Some have been embraced more than others, but the spirit of creating something that can become part of a larger, more collaborative creative process, is a hallmark of RT. Our story has been shaped by our fans, including some who came to work at RT and ultimately contributed to the RvB franchise itself. We are proud of the fact that through its evolution, people are still passionate about Red vs Blue after all this time.
With all that said, it's important to note upfront that we will NOT be immediately going into production on a full-season. Red vs. Blue will continue, but we also need some time to imagine the future of the show. For a number of reasons, we're moving on from the Zero storyline and into a new storytelling phase of RvB. Although we're saying goodbye to the Shatter Squad for now, the team loved creating and working in that space and we are proud of the work we did.
Over the next three months, we will begin to deliver weekly content to both our Animation YouTube channel and Rooster Teeth in two ways. Firstly, as you may have heard there's a new Halo show on Paramount+ and we're fortunate enough to have the opportunity to support the release by getting some of the legacy Blood Gulch crew back together for a comedic recap of the Master Chief's latest adventure. Secondly, by continuing the art of preserving the series with Complete versions of our mini-series, starting with "Out of Mind". We will also be continuing to address captions and issues we have found in existing Completes, like Season 15.
What will follow that is 18 months of what we hope will be weekly content, some of it live-action, some of it machinimated, but all in the spirit of RvB. We have a "Halo Infinite-style" piece of short-form RvB content that we hope to reveal this year. Later in the year, we'd like to tell a short story expanding on some legacy content plot threads that are hanging out there. We will also continue to be a good partner to Microsoft and find more ways to support Halo Infinite and engage with our audience on their platform as well. Finally, we're planning to create nostalgic content leading up to the 20th anniversary of the show one year from now (which is crazy to imagine, 20 years of RvB!).
If you have made it all the way to the end of this letter, thank you for supporting us! As someone who has enjoyed Red vs Blue long before they began working in entertainment, it is an honor to have the opportunity to contribute to the RvB Universe. I encourage you to share your thoughts in the comments about this roadmap, and use #RvB on social media to have your voice heard. If you want to support RvB directly, watch the new and existing content, share it with friends and family, and buy our merch! All these things contribute to ensuring that RvB remains a living and breathing part of the zeitgeist. I look forward to supporting the ongoing legacy of Red vs. Blue for years to come and hope you find joy in what we create together. If you'd like to hear more about this in greater detail, I plan on joining the RT Podcast for the episode on April 11th and hope you will join me. Thanks so much for your time, happy 19 years to the RvB community!
— Sean Hinz
Hard to believe it, but already 6 months have gone by since our last update on the roadmap for Red vs. Blue and a lost has happened since then. In that time span we released all 11 episodes of Family Shatters, finished the Complete run of the first 17 seasons and began to lay the groundwork for the larger RvB Universe. Along the way we've been working to better understand the bond we have with our audience. This letter is an attempt to add clarity to the last two years of production, and introduce a roadmap for the next two yars. So let's clear the air and start right off with Red vs. Blue ZERO.
ZERO was an incredibly ambitious production, pushing the furthest away from the machinima look since season 14, while also building a show in an experimental pipeline. With the Shisno Trilogy receiving mixed reviews, we saw an opportunity to do something different. Create something "RvB adjacent" that on the surface would feature similar tenants of the brand, like the iconic Halo armor, found family dynamics, and nods to the previous seasons. Then wrap it up in a new aesthetic, with comedic elements and big action set pieces. We knew it would be difficult and then surprise! We were also suddenly navigating a pandemic. Regardless, we absolutely tried to make the best of a challenging set of circumstances and I know for a fact the team put their whole hearts into the season.
Rooster Teeth is about the art of storytelling and giving opportunities to emerging voices. Sometimes those stories resonate with our audience and something truly magical can happen. RvB is evidence of this with over 19 years featuring different creatives, different concepts, and each with their own story to tell. Some have been embraced more than others, but the spirit of creating something that can become part of a larger, more collaborative creative process, is a hallmark of RT. Our story has been shaped by our fans, including some who came to work at RT and ultimately contributed to the RvB franchise itself. We are proud of the fact that through its evolution, people are still passionate about Red vs Blue after all this time.
With all that said, it's important to note upfront that we will NOT be immediately going into production on a full-season. Red vs. Blue will continue, but we also need some time to imagine the future of the show. For a number of reasons, we're moving on from the Zero storyline and into a new storytelling phase of RvB. Although we're saying goodbye to the Shatter Squad for now, the team loved creating and working in that space and we are proud of the work we did.
Over the next three months, we will begin to deliver weekly content to both our Animation YouTube channel and Rooster Teeth in two ways. Firstly, as you may have heard there's a new Halo show on Paramount+ and we're fortunate enough to have the opportunity to support the release by getting some of the legacy Blood Gulch crew back together for a comedic recap of the Master Chief's latest adventure. Secondly, by continuing the art of preserving the series with Complete versions of our mini-series, starting with "Out of Mind". We will also be continuing to address captions and issues we have found in existing Completes, like Season 15.
What will follow that is 18 months of what we hope will be weekly content, some of it live-action, some of it machinimated, but all in the spirit of RvB. We have a "Halo Infinite-style" piece of short-form RvB content that we hope to reveal this year. Later in the year, we'd like to tell a short story expanding on some legacy content plot threads that are hanging out there. We will also continue to be a good partner to Microsoft and find more ways to support Halo Infinite and engage with our audience on their platform as well. Finally, we're planning to create nostalgic content leading up to the 20th anniversary of the show one year from now (which is crazy to imagine, 20 years of RvB!).
If you have made it all the way to the end of this letter, thank you for supporting us! As someone who has enjoyed Red vs Blue long before they began working in entertainment, it is an honor to have the opportunity to contribute to the RvB Universe. I encourage you to share your thoughts in the comments about this roadmap, and use #RvB on social media to have your voice heard. If you want to support RvB directly, watch the new and existing content, share it with friends and family, and buy our merch! All these things contribute to ensuring that RvB remains a living and breathing part of the zeitgeist. I look forward to supporting the ongoing legacy of Red vs. Blue for years to come and hope you find joy in what we create together. If you'd like to hear more about this in greater detail, I plan on joining the RT Podcast for the episode on April 11th and hope you will join me. Thanks so much for your time, happy 19 years to the RvB community!
— Sean Hinz
Edited by RebelFalcon on Apr 3rd 2022 at 2:23:41 PM
Vegeta: I'm back bitches!
#2257: Apr 3rd 2022 at 9:59:49 AM
I at least appreciate the honesty they're attempting with this as opposed to any more blatant, unapologetic orporate bullshit.
Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
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Since: Mar, 2012
#2258: Apr 3rd 2022 at 10:14:59 AM
Just go back to Chorus, add however many old guard still want to come back, and just move on from there.
#2259: Apr 3rd 2022 at 5:18:31 PM
Might be hard for some of them. At the very least, Carolina, Wash, Tucker, Sarge, Grif, Simmons, Donut, Doc, and Chrovos would be possible candidates to return. As for the others though:
- Recasts:
- Caboose is gonna need one since Joel got fired and made clear he never intends to work with Rooster Teeth again.
- Locus is gonna need one after Gray got let go following the Crunch Time fiasco.
- Smith will need one since Ryan got fired following his... incidents.
- Other Commitments/Unavailable:
- Kimball, Jenkins, Palomo, and Dr. Grey will likely have issues since Lindsay, Barb, Kerry, and Arryn will be preoccupied with RWBY.
- Lopez may need a recast or might not return since Burnie is only a contractor now and might not be able to provide lines if he has other commitments.
- Bitters is... an odd one. His VA, Brandon Farmahini, is no longer with RT, but there's no indications that his departure was anything but amicable, and yet there doesn't seem to be any sign of him related to RT since 2017.
Edited by RebelFalcon on Apr 3rd 2022 at 8:23:18 AM
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#2260: Apr 3rd 2022 at 6:15:16 PM
Locus is honestly the only recasting that would affect me since they were setting up a redemption arc with him during the Shisno Paradox.
Team RWBY's VA's are at least around to voice most of those characters. I doubt they'd pass it up.
I'm not sure what happened with Smith's actor but I barely remember his character.
Caboose has basically run through every thesible bit of character development sans returning to his pseudo-sane Season 1 self.
Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
#2261: Apr 3rd 2022 at 6:18:18 PM
Johnathan Elizabeth Andersmith, Caboose's Lieutenant and one of the four Chorus Lieutenants. He was voiced by Ryan Haywood, who got fired after it came to light he had been sexually grooming fans.
#2262: Apr 3rd 2022 at 6:26:00 PM
Ah, that guy.
I mean, Anders was funny but I don't feel like his voice was intrinsic to the character.
Also, I'm catching up on the whole Ryan Heywood story and oh my.
Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Karxrida
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The Unknown
#2263: Apr 3rd 2022 at 6:36:16 PM
Kimball, Jenkins, Palomo, and Dr. Grey will likely have issues since Lindsay, Barb, Kerry, and Arryn will be preoccupied with RWBY.
I think you are overestimating how much time recording lines for RWBY would take, plus professional VAs tend to accept multiple recording jobs due to the uneven nature of their work. Unless those four have other very time-consuming commitments it shouldn't be an issue.
Edited by Karxrida on Apr 3rd 2022 at 6:38:25 AM
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
#2264: Apr 3rd 2022 at 6:58:18 PM
Well, Kerry is one of the writers, so that could affect his appearing as Palomo. And like Burnie, Arynn is a contractor, so she might not want to return more than she has to. That would leave Lindsay and Barb at least.
Wyldchyld
(Old as dirt)
#2265: Apr 6th 2022 at 12:29:46 PM
Miles was working on RvB while voice acting and writing for RWBY.
It's not unusual in that industry to be doing multiple things, or to be working multiple jobs on contract, either.
If they don't get them back it won't be because it's conceptually a problem. It'll be for reasons specific to each person (which, yes, can include schedule clashes, among other things).
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Snoketrope
Barb / Temporary Kylo
from California
Since: Oct, 2020
Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
Barb / Temporary Kylo
#2266: Apr 28th 2022 at 9:21:28 AM
It would be cool if maybe RT could collab with Paramount and make some kind of Comic book or mini thing showing a 'Silver Timeline' version of the events of Red Vs Blue,
The First man
#2267: Jul 12th 2022 at 4:18:20 PM
New Spinoff in the works called "QvsA", a Q & A style series starring Gus and Geoff playing Simmons and Grif respectively. It will be filmed using Halo Infinite, and thanks to the more customizable character models, the characters will have traits that were originally informed attributes be more readily apparent. Including:
- Simmons' left arm being robotic from the elbow down to denote his status as a cyborg.
- Grif having a heavier body shape to denote his constantly being called fat.
Edited by RebelFalcon on Jul 12th 2022 at 7:19:41 AM
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Snoketrope
Barb / Temporary Kylo
from California
Since: Oct, 2020
Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
Barb / Temporary Kylo
#2268: Jul 20th 2022 at 10:17:38 PM
Nice
The First man
Snoketrope
Barb / Temporary Kylo
from California
Since: Oct, 2020
Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
Barb / Temporary Kylo
#2269: Aug 11th 2022 at 11:23:55 AM
'
New Red vs Blue short, 'Back to work'.
The First man
Wyldchyld
(Old as dirt)
#2270: Aug 11th 2022 at 4:41:19 PM
Cue the CarWash shippers going crazy in 3... 2... 1...
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Snoketrope
Barb / Temporary Kylo
from California
Since: Oct, 2020
Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
Barb / Temporary Kylo
#2272: Aug 12th 2022 at 5:33:40 AM
And they were roommates
Wyldchyld
(Old as dirt)
#2273: Nov 13th 2022 at 4:22:10 AM
Question: Is Zero really considered The Scrappy? Every time I see the fandom discuss RVB:Zero, I don't see anyone single out Zero. The general attitude seems to be that almost all the characters suck in their own ways, and the only characters that tend to get singled out are the ones people liked more than the rest of the cast (or disliked the least if they're being particularly negative). When I see people discuss the character they hate most in the entire run (including Zero), the character that gets singled out the most is still South (sometimes "South plus the entire cast of Zero").
Have I missed anywhere that does regard Zero as excessively disliked compared to the rest of RvBZ cast?
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#2274: Nov 14th 2022 at 2:18:45 AM
I'm gonna be honest, I don't even remember who Zero is.
#2275: Nov 14th 2022 at 11:48:13 AM
I will say Zero is literally the only cast member whose name I remember from, uh, Zero primarily because, well, title character but also because of how mocked he is for being a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain and coming across as try-hard.
Keep in mind I haven't seen Zero.
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