G-Senjou no Maou

Well, the hints about it being an alternate personality of Kyousuke were a bit too obvious, and from there I had to think about who it could be instead. Conservation of detail is basically what made it Kyouhei after that. Unless it was Kyousuke's friend, who else was even possible unless it was someone we've never heard of?

Well it's obviously implied it's Kyousuke but his brother is hardly ever mentioned in the story so I didn't even think of that possibility.

Well, all I was really sure of was that it definitely wasn't Kyousuke.

Okay now I want to go play again for more awesome Usaminess.

edited 31st Jan '11 7:59:09 PM by Arha

T_T

Ending is so beautiful......

I'm really pissed that I'm missing 1 CG though. The one between the C Gs of Haru and Kyousuke's kid and Gonzou's death. Anyone know how to get it?

It's part of the bad end for Mizuha. I should have probably read what was going on in that bad end instead of just skipping it, but considering what the graphic is I can guess.

Also, I don't get why Maou stops his actions in the other routes. Is he supposed to be Kyousuke in those?

In Tsubaki's route at least, Kyousuke became more focused on Tsubaki rather than his prior goal of paying off the debt (to an extent), especially later on in her route. I forget a lot of what happened, for some reason. I guess I'll go over it again some time.

Hm, so finally started replaying it and this time I'm actually going to do the Kanon route. Just didn't feel like it before despite her being generally entertaining. The transition to her route is kind of sloppy. Woops, Saijou died! Yuki's gone now! Ok now back to Kanon!

Her mom is really shaping up to seem like a wonderful human being.

There should be a Yuki route.

There should be a Gonzou route.

Every route is Gonzou route.

Is it just me, or did it actually seem like Gonzou really did approve of Kyousuke and want to be a father figure to him? Just kind of, you know, sucked at it.

Yeah, that's what I was getting too. Maybe only in Haru's route though.

Hm, I felt there were other things even before that. Like Gonzou inviting him to the shooting range. I felt he was maybe a bit disappointed that Kyousuke turned him down. Or how he basically told him not to get involved with Tsubaki, but told him to go ahead and screw his daughter. That's either 'I'll let you touch my daughter, I approve of you' or more likely 'Kanon is good enough for you.'

And Kanon's route kind of cements that impression for me. ...Sort of. The thing with Maou is kind of personally amusing, though, since I don't buy the Schrödinger's Gun theory in regard to the different routes. Dawww, the terrorist found love. Love redeems! Happy end!

Heh.

edited 24th Apr '11 5:42:19 PM by Arha

I liked the Kanon ending and climax. Kind of makes me feel bad for her in relation to the true end of the story.

The family themes that Akabei does are kind of interesting.

Though you have to remember, for most of each girl's route he's pretty much going, "So, how can I make her serve my purposes today? Muahahahaha!" until near the end.

Also, for the part that transitions into Tsubaki's route, you have to admit that even Kyousuke would be going, "Oh man, this is just too fucking adorable."

edited 24th Apr '11 6:08:43 PM by Five_X

Hm, not quite. It's quite d'awww inducing but I tend to reserve words like adorable for stuff like kittens.

Hm. I found that scene so freakin' heartwarming and cute, to the mind-numbing max. Sadly Kanon's route and Shiratori's route make for kind of a dull zone, though Shiratori gets more interesting in her route.

But who cares because Usami.

Oh, heartwarming certainly. Watching what was happening to Tsubaki was oddly emotional when you consider that she was doing no worse than becoming a normal person, and yet the halting of that is indeed touching. I just hesitate to use the word adorable for it.

Kanon's route as a whole was sort of meh, but like I said I like the resolution part of it. And the idea of Maou calling off his ploys because of love is simply comical. Add to that the fact that he really can't be Kyousuke because it totally screws up Usami's motives. There's simply no way Kyousuke could have been the terrorist that killed her mother. Having Kanon not be the real heroine is a bit sadder for me than either Tsubaki or Mizuha because Kanon really isn't as resilient as Tsubaki nor does she have as, well, shallow of an attraction as Mizuha.

And yes, we can overlook all of that because Usami exists, and Usami is the best.

edited 24th Apr '11 6:37:22 PM by Arha

Hm. Can't finish Mizuha route again. The first half is funny, but as the story actually points out the romance isn't really that believable. I think it probably would have been better to have Yuki as a heroine than her or something. So I think as for routes it's Usami > Kanon ≥ Tsubaki > Mizuha. As far as heroines I'd reverse the position of Tsubaki and Kanon, keep the ≥ and call it good. Mizuha just doesn't seem to fit very well.

Also, as for why I don't consider it adorable, I think it's because to me adorable means 'I want to cuddle with this thing it's so damn cute <3' and I don't really want to cuddle Tsubaki and her brother. But it gets a d'awww.

edited 25th Apr '11 11:19:57 PM by Arha

I still have Tsubaki equal to Usami in terms of characters and routes still :P

Though the end of Usami's route is complicatedly happy and depressing at the same time. Tsubaki's was super happy in comparison, though that's Tsubaki's route. Usami's route has every reason to be sad, even though that epilogue REALLY seemed to come out of (almost) nowhere. Is Maou Liquid Snake or something?

RE Maou and Kyousuke, it's kind of obvious once you get into Chapter 5 that Kyousuke isn't Maou, with the fact that he would've been waaaaay to young to have killed Usami's mother at the time of her death, among many other things. Though the game as a whole is extremely well written, near the level of Ever17 for sheer clever use of the visual novel format.

edited 26th Apr '11 12:06:57 AM by Five_X

Well, considering that Kyousuke and Kyouhei look similar, it's not that clever imo. Well, at least in comparison to Ever.

Eh, it feels a little implausible. Someone with a hard life like Maou full of stress and combat that is about 30 looks around the same age as 19-20 Kyousuke? Meh. And their voices are that similar?

Well duh, Kyousuke is Batman. That explains everything.

I don't find the appearance thing too unconvincing, and the two having similar voices is also somewhat plausible. After all, Kyousuke (according to some of the characters) usually speaks in a more casual tone, but when he's more serious his voice is deeper or something like that.

edited 26th Apr '11 4:01:55 PM by Five_X

I'm not saying that the age difference is completely neglectable but if we're talking about an anime adaptation, you could definitely make it work. Plus, it's not like Kyousuke leads a stress free life with Gonzou watching over every move he makes.

No, but other people don't react as though he looks older than his age.