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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3051: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:24:34 PM

# 3045 The person in charge of TV Tropes The TV Show has told me the pages are treated as archives, so I don't edit them.

Movie, are you sure about XCOM? It only gives me 7 inbounds.

edited 29th Jun '12 11:24:55 PM by lu127

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#3052: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:27:12 PM

Oops, you're right! Never mind on that, then.

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#3053: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:27:18 PM

It's a quirk with the change to the inbound calculator.

The one you get on Related To... goes back to Jan 1 of this year. The one for the cutlist goes somewhat further back.

Which is why I have a question: If we are going strictly by the new inbounds, that would mean that we could just cut every ptitle now (Save the one to Brian Blessed) since ptitles were fully phased out by then and redirects don't accrue inbounds.

Is that what we're doing?

edited 29th Jun '12 11:29:29 PM by DarkConfidant

movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#3054: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:31:28 PM

I think that was done intentionally, though. I still remember when inbound counts went back to the year 2009.

I'd rather we be rid of ptitles, entirely - but I'm playing by the rules, and leaving the ones that currently have over ten inbounds (of which there are still a few, besides the Brian Blessed one).

edited 29th Jun '12 11:32:13 PM by movie007

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3055: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:31:54 PM

Looks like the cutlist shows them. [up][up][up] Restored.

Though, I'll be honest, if a ptitle has brought no people in this year, it's a good indication people no longer use it.

edited 29th Jun '12 11:32:09 PM by lu127

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#3056: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:32:05 PM

[up][up]That's because "I can remember when" was five days ago.

[up] That's not entirely correct... Even if I make an inbound link on a different site to a ptitle, the final page, not the redirect, gets the inbound incremented. At least, that's what I've gathered.

So, even if the ptitles are still being used due to older links, they will never gain inbounds again.

[down] I remember differently, but that's hardly relevant to this conversation.

edited 29th Jun '12 11:34:47 PM by DarkConfidant

movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#3057: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:34:12 PM

No, it didn't go all the way back to 2009. It only went back to January 1 of 2011, but I do remember a prior time when it did go back to 2009.

As you can probably guess, I hate the whole ptitle system with a passion! I am looking forward to the day when we can finally be rid of all evidence that the darn system ever existed.

edited 29th Jun '12 11:35:33 PM by movie007

movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#3058: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:39:46 PM

Also, my point of bringing that up is that I believe they update the inbound thing periodically.

edited 29th Jun '12 11:40:05 PM by movie007

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3059: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:41:31 PM

[up][up][up] A cut page shows its inbounds after it stays cut for a while. When The Beautiful People was a redirect it showed no inbounds, but after it was cut we realised it had over 300.

[up] I came in after we started using it. Managed not to suffer! tongue

edited 29th Jun '12 11:41:51 PM by lu127

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#3060: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:46:49 PM

I don't have a problem with watching the cut ptitles to see if any do, in fact, accrue inbounds - and, if that's the case, then they can be restored. I figure that most people who frequent this site, though, would no longer link to the ptitles.

It looks as if Dark Confidant and I have a slight conflict of interests here.

edited 29th Jun '12 11:47:24 PM by movie007

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#3061: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:48:35 PM

My interest is in maintaining and preserving inbounds, so it's only natural that we'd have this sort of disagreement. :(

movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#3062: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:58:35 PM

And I guess I just want all traces of the whole ptitle system to be excised entirely. But I'm playing by the rules, and leaving the ones that have more than ten inbounds. In fact, I even just asked for one to be restored - as much as it pained me to do so.

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#3063: Jun 30th 2012 at 8:53:47 AM

Some edits on Works Pages Are A Free Launch:

So many, that I decided to just make a sandbox to merge in. Notably, there were some grammatical errors, and it needed to be updated to point out that yes, YKTTW's are now mandatory for new tropes. The number of corrections necessary made it easier just to request the sandbox replace the current version.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#3064: Jun 30th 2012 at 2:16:44 PM

[up] I like that...made a couple of minor tweaks. Also, in the second option, did you mean to say "official" instead of "officious"?

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#3065: Jun 30th 2012 at 2:21:02 PM

I just left that as that was how it was in the original page. "formal" was the better word anyway. Made a couple more tweaks as well.

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#3066: Jun 30th 2012 at 3:17:40 PM

Also, Yiff has a hottip to clean up.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3067: Jun 30th 2012 at 3:24:44 PM

...That was a really silly hottip. I just removed it.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#3068: Jun 30th 2012 at 5:05:18 PM

HighOctaneNightmareFuel.Metroid needs to be redirected again to NightmareFuel.Metroid.

Same with HighOctaneNightmareFuel.Mortal Kombat to NightmareFuel.Mortal Kombat

This could get repetitive. :( Would someone kindly make a note not to cut these redirects?

edited 30th Jun '12 5:06:03 PM by DarkConfidant

movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#3069: Jun 30th 2012 at 5:38:46 PM

Okay, we need to find some way to come to an agreement on this. I really would like to, eventually, remove all ptitle pages and pages from obsolete namespaces. I don't want them to have to stay on here permanently. At least, we should plan for some time when they can be removed, for once and for all.

Like, I don't want it to be 2015, and they still not be allowed to be removed.

edited 30th Jun '12 5:41:42 PM by movie007

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#3070: Jun 30th 2012 at 5:42:22 PM

[up][up] Done, done, and done.

edited 30th Jun '12 5:42:41 PM by Willbyr

movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#3071: Jun 30th 2012 at 5:45:38 PM

If we can't come to some sort of agreement, then I'm leaving this Wiki! I tired of having all this work that I've done be in vain.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#3072: Jun 30th 2012 at 5:52:31 PM

Chill, movie. I'm doing something in the background to remove the ptitles. They were clogging up the cutlist.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
movie007 Since: Jan, 2001
#3073: Jun 30th 2012 at 5:53:21 PM

Okay, got it! Sorry for reacting the way I did! cool

edited 30th Jun '12 5:53:42 PM by movie007

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#3074: Jun 30th 2012 at 5:55:32 PM

No prob. Thanks for all the hard work. We are now down to 24 remaining ptitles. All the redirects with minimal inbounds are gone.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#3075: Jun 30th 2012 at 5:56:38 PM

My apologies for being so forceful, Movie. I merely show up here to point stuff out, since sometimes the cutmasters do make mistakes.

Apologies to you as well, Fast One, if I'm doing something wrong here.

edited 30th Jun '12 5:57:09 PM by DarkConfidant


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