Loserswithwifi
Can I remove this part of Brits Love Tea’s description?
; Douglas Adams also wrote one. In general, the typical British attitude to tea is nicely summed up here.
Having links to a bunch of random articles and a song in the middle of a trope description feels a bit weird.
Disasturbator
I'd keep them
New theme music also a box
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Agree to remove. The works could be moved to examples, if they're not there already.
Edited by DoktorvonEurotrash on May 9th 2024 at 4:43:24 AM
Loserswithwifi
They’re all listed as examples already, if that affects anything.
Does anyone else have any input on this?
The description for But Not Too Evil takes more time to potshot at Moral Guardians than to actually explain the trope.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO
RJ Savoy
I agree with not having links in the description unless it's to an acknowledged authority in the field. And that doesn't apply to tea because it's drunk indoors, not out in the field.
Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Agree that those could be slimmed down a lot. Not removed completely, though, since it is one valid reason for the trope.
Oh ha ha. 
Edited by DoktorvonEurotrash on May 11th 2024 at 5:00:49 AM
Always in Class One is about how the classrooms of protagonists in a lot of media (mostly eastern works) are "Class X-A" or "Class X-1". There's a weird bit near the end talking about toying with the trope, though:
I'm inclined to remove that last bit in particular just because aversions of tropes pretty much always meaningless anyways, and that's something it even acknowledges. Also, the general tone of the description is weirdly focused on its "laziness" — that a writer putting a main character in "Classroom X-1" is "due to laziness or otherwise". Permission to remove/rewrite these entries for being weirdly negging?
Thanks for playing King's Quest V!
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
Solar Sail includes this paragraph:
...first, that shouldn't work, any more than you can propel a boat by pointing a fan at the sail. Second and more importantly, I don't think I've ever seen that in fiction?
The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
Officially intimidated
Me neither.
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RJ Savoy
I agree with removing them. Those sentences always bothered me but I wasn't sure what to do about them.
The usual proposal is to have a solar-powered laser at a Lagrange point that the ship rides, with very careful precision to keep the laser aligned with it. The problem is that the further away from the sun a solar sail goes, the less effective it is, and it's impossible to approach another star. So providing the light pressure as a coherent beam is the only likely way it will reach another solar system. There's even a suggestion that a probe would release a reflector when it reaches its destination and ride the same beam back.
It doesn't turn up often in fiction because a slower-than-light ship that depends on an external power source is not what space opera usually runs on, but the concept gets a nod in Civilization VI.
Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Accumulating Filibuster Counters
Hello, I've noticed that Non-Lethal Bottomless Pits had a rather bare-bones (and repetitive) description despite being a nigh-on Omnipresent Trope, so have drafted an expansion explaining why they exist in a bit more detail?
Also used in RPGs in which it would be kind of silly and frustrating to punish the player for missteps (sometimes they also have an Invisible Hand Rail).
Often accompanied by Puzzle Reset.
In this special case of Death Is a Slap on the Wrist, more mundane hazards such as evil monsters and sharp blades force you to restart from the last Checkpoint or Save Point when you die, but falling into lava, down Bottomless Pits, into water, or whatever reduces your health by the same amount as a monkey hitting you on the head with a coconut. Possibly even less than that.
Of course, Tropes Are Tools, and this one is commonly employed as an Acceptable Break from Reality. Platforming segments in games are usually intended to be challenging, and the player is expected to go plummeting into the abyss several times while they figure out a way across: they would quickly start getting exasperated if they had to sit through a full Game Over Loading Screen every time they made a misstep (unless it's a certain kind of game). Also common in Wacky Racing games, where it would seem unfair if careening off the often-precarious track resulted in an instant loss.
Compare and contrast Edge Gravity, which often functions as an "Invisible Hand Rail", as an alternative. A Super-Trope to Bottomless Pit Rescue Service.
EDIT: New description added.
Edited by Azorius24 on May 14th 2024 at 10:32:40 AM
"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".
RJ Savoy
Better, though I don't like "...it just never happened". Maybe "as if the pits were slides all leading to the same point".
Accumulating Filibuster Counters
Thanks. Any improvement?
RJ Savoy
"it did happen" might be expanded into "you did fall to the bottom", otherwise it's fine by me.
Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Accumulating Filibuster Counters
I've done the same for Hostage Video, again quite a common trope with a very minimal description. However I'm a bit concerned that this might be expanding too much? But I wanted to address some more of the ways this trope is commonly used.
Basically, our particular hostage is tied to a chair with a flag backdrop, while one or more bad guys in balaclavas look menacing with firearms. Then the hostage is forced to a) denounce his country b) read out his captors' demands c) beg his nation's leaders to help or d) a combination thereof.
Other variations include placing the hostage in mortal peril with a ticking clock.
If the bad guys don't get what they want, things might turn into a Snuff Film.
So begins the Hostage Video, filmed by the hostage-takers to provide evidence that the unfortunate victim(s) shown are truly at their mercy, while doubling as a psychological intimidation tactic, especially if the hostage is forced to denounce themselves, their country or organisation. The trope has largely supplanted the classic ransom note in the modern day, due to the increasing prominence of the internet and its infamous utilisation in Real Life by terror groups such as Al-Qaeda and Islamic State.
It can arise in a variety of contexts, from a villain's demonstration to the hero that I Have Your Wife, to a group of hijackers threatening a massacre if they don't get what they want, to a captured leader being forced at gunpoint to encourage La Résistance to lay down their arms and submit to their new overlords. If the hostage-takers want to horrify the recipients (and the audience), the hostage will bear visible marks of beatings and torture — the message may even become a Snuff Film if there are multiple hostages and the hostage-takers want to prove, in an especially grisly way, that they're not bluffing, or if their demands are not met. To add extra jeopardy, the hostage takers will usually include an ultimatum, or even go so far as to add a countdown to the video or live feed of the hostage.
If the hostages' location is unknown, their would-be rescuers will usually try and trace the source of the video through deduction and Hollywood Hacking wizardry. This is almost guaranteed to fail, with the baddies having expected this, planting false leads that drive the rescuers into a trap and/or allow them to escalate their already-unreasonable demands.
However, a particularly canny hostage will be able to use the video as a means to get their own message out, whether that's through code words, sign language, or Morse Code communicated through finger-taps or blinks.
Very likely to appear in a Post-9/11 Terrorism Movie. Compare murder.com for another trope where torture and death is broadcast over the internet.
Rookie Trope Repairer
Is this single line in the trope description for Urban Fantasy necessary, or just complainy natter?
Useful Note
I notice that Paranormal Romance also has the line. Make of that what you will.
More relevant for Sexy Packaging.
And Paranormal Romance, instead of Urban Fantasy general.
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I support cutting it (on both pages) as being complainy.
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I agree, plenty of American shows come to mind.
Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.