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Elmo3000 from UK Since: Jul, 2013
#84751: May 5th 2024 at 11:47:17 AM

[up]I'm not a fan of it, but if you go by the weird 'every arcade ending is an example of something that could be canon' logic of Mortal Kombat, as well as MK1 giving everyone an alternate-universe version who is capable of fighting amongst Gods, then there are definitely ways to buff Kano enough that he doesn't immediately get destroyed by Cyclops. It's a shame that it's a stomp, because if they'd done it back in Season 2/3 then it would've been really entertaining to see. Play up Cyclops' boy-scoutness in comparison with Kano's hard-drinking brutal 'What do you mean "It's cheating to hide multiple blades in your shoe?" Piss off ya bleedin' drongo!' pragmatism.

And then they could be bringing back Kano now to fight Captain Boomerang, both Australian villains who have experience with speedsters; Kabal and The Flash family. You'd assume (correctly) that Boomer has way higher reaction times, but the general explanation for his relative success is just that he's fought Flash enough that he can fairly reliably predict where he's going to be, rather than just "The Flash can move ten trillion times faster than light so Digger must be reacting even faster to hit him!"

... Oh! And since they both like to swear, you could name the fight OST, 'Boomer Ku-Wanker'. Which... I always thought Boomer Kuwanger was a vaguely Australian phrase but apparently it's just a Mega Man X boss, and Kuwanger comes from the Japanese word for stag beetle. Oh well, I still like it.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#84752: May 5th 2024 at 12:00:02 PM

Yeah, Cyclops is a character I'd really like on the show but finding him a really good opponent is...tough.

An idea I cooked up in my head would be Danzo from Naruto. Both of them are strong authority figures with ocular powers that are both willing to make tough choices for the sake of peace. Though in contrast, while Cyclops is willing to stand on the front lines and speak his mind for peace, Danzo hides in the shadows and manipulates and deceives his way towards peace.

It's a match-up where Cyclops wins since he should be able to resist Danzo's Sharingan due to experience with Jean and Xavier, but I think the dialogue between them could be interesting with Cyclops reflecting on how he could've become as extreme as Danzo at one point.

Elmo3000 from UK Since: Jul, 2013
#84753: May 5th 2024 at 12:14:08 PM

I have never heard of Danzo and I do not know who he is.

Danzo hides in the shadows and manipulates and deceives his way towards peace.

... which I suppose means that his plan is working...

Sounds like a great match-up though. My only demand for a Cyclops match is that there has to be a moment where he's firing everything he's got, and he says "Alright, that's it! No more holding back! See if you can keep up with this!" and then his opponent braces themselves, and he just stops firing his eye beams, throwing them completely off-balance as they are now bracing against nothing and they fall over like an idiot. He did that to Thanos in the original Infinity Gauntlet storyline. It was great.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#84754: May 5th 2024 at 12:20:00 PM

... which I suppose means that his plan is working...

-Simpsons neck tug-

Edited by FOFD on May 5th 2024 at 3:20:42 PM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84755: May 5th 2024 at 12:21:26 PM

I still want an opponent for Neji or Hinata, but even the appropriate opponents have no defence against the Gentle Fist.

Like, either they can completely nullify it, or they can't. There's no middle ground with that style.

One Strip! One Strip!
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#84756: May 5th 2024 at 12:35:08 PM

Scott and Neji both have powers that basically one'shot if they connect, had beef with their paternal figure, and have a sibling they tried to beat the crap out of. Both have deaths that might be considered internet memes.

Edited by FOFD on May 5th 2024 at 4:38:02 AM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#84757: May 5th 2024 at 1:37:01 PM

I have never heard of Danzo and I do not know who he is.

Danzō Shimura is one of the Third & later Fifth Hokage's advisors as well as the leader of the black ops organization Root; often going behind the Hokage's back and using underhanded and highly unethical (if not straight up illegal) means—like working with Orochimaru, backstabbing the original iteration of Akatsuki (thereby enabling Obito to turn it into a terrorist organization), oppressing the Uchiha Clan, ordering the Uchiha Clan massacre when the aforementioned oppression backfired, having Orochimaru graft the First Hokage's cells and a ton of Sharingan into one of his arms (which turns out to not even be his arm) so he can spam Izanagi in the event someone tries to take him out, assassinating anyone he perceives as a threat, and attempting to brainwash the other Kage into kowtowing to him using Shisui Uchiha's stolen Mangekyō Sharingan (having ripped it out of his head to take for himself)—to pursue his "might makes right" & "the ends justify the means" vision of peace.

Edited by Arawn999 on May 5th 2024 at 1:38:27 AM

Freshwater Since: Apr, 2023
#84758: May 5th 2024 at 1:45:05 PM

[up]x3

Frans Rayner? He's a serial ninja killer with absurd control over his body including his nervous system. He can rearrange his organs and vital points at will but they are still there. It would make him a challenge for Neji but not an impossible one. Rayner does have a ranged weapon with his laser eye but he's only got a limited number of shots because of it's energy drain.

The big danger that Neji might face is if he ever tries to use the shadow clone or clone jutsus because those canonically give Rayner a huge buff.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84759: May 5th 2024 at 4:37:31 PM

Scott

Scott who?

Like, we're gonna need a last name of some sort.

[up]Sounds like an interesting dude. As for the Shadow Clone or regular Clone technique, Neji doesn't use it as far as I know. He should know how to do it (the regular Clone Jutsu), as I'm pretty sure it's a required technique in the Leaf Village. I'm curious as to why using it would power up this dude however.

One Strip! One Strip!
MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
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#84760: May 5th 2024 at 4:49:50 PM

I'd love to see any Dr. McNinja character on this show.

Danzo is interesting in that, while he has the power to temporarily become a reality Warper, he doesn't have the imagination to use it effectively.

Edited by MisterTambourineMan on May 5th 2024 at 6:50:13 AM

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Freshwater Since: Apr, 2023
#84761: May 5th 2024 at 5:14:23 PM

[up]x2

The conservation of ninjutsu is a physical law in the McNinja universe that Frans tapped into order to kill entire clans of ninjas. Against one ninja he's a decent threat.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_2024_05_05_201145.png

However, against entire armies of ninja he's unstoppable.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_2024_05_05_201323_3.png

Edited by Freshwater on May 5th 2024 at 5:17:41 AM

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#84762: May 5th 2024 at 6:05:56 PM

Hmm. A thought — any opponent of Danzō's would not only have to contend with his ability to use Izanagi for up to one minute per eye (which he has 10 of, not counting Shisui's eye) as well as the passive healing factor and Wood Release usage granted by Hashirama Senju's cells, but have to be able to counteract Kotoamatsukami.

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
Like reflections in the glass!
#84763: May 5th 2024 at 6:10:02 PM

So has anyone done Zeus vs Odin yet? Thunder wielding Top Gods seems like something that would've been done by now.

Shoobedobah Anon Zilla from Guess Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#84764: May 5th 2024 at 7:06:51 PM

[up] It was on the ballot for this year's fight, but ultimately lost. I wouldn't be shocked if it still happened later though, Hercules vs. Sun Wukong got a pretty great reception.

Witherbrine98 Since: May, 2016
#84765: May 5th 2024 at 7:41:28 PM

Honestly, speaking of mythology/folklore battles...would it be a little unhinged to ask for Paul Bunyan vs. Ilya Muromets? Would be kind of fun match-up honestly.

Candid-Jury Since: Apr, 2023
#84766: May 5th 2024 at 9:26:13 PM

Elmo 3000[up] Thinking about it, the Flash Rogues are really fast in general. Being able to hit the Flash while he's moving isn't just solely from predicting when and where he'll be going, but it's also establish they needed to be at least in some part fast.

    Flash Rogues Gallery are actually pretty fast 
As Captain Boomerang (Owen Mercer) himself stated he can move faster than a speeding bullet, albeit for short bursts (https://imgur.com/UQa6kFb) though he does get caught because Deadshot's able to see each beat of a hummingbird's wing flaps (https://imgur.com/8AHAIrM).

He has also outran Mach 1 living chemical gases, long story in of itself, to lure all six composites into an airlock to trap and flush them out even if he did get tagged on the left shoulder due to being unable to maintain his speed for so long (https://imgur.com/U3bgO2q).

He throws his boomerangs faster than sound (https://imgur.com/8exiXmI) and he has outright out-sped them after being thrown when he needs to do so.

Captain Cold had even threatened the Candyman, that he very can take down a dozen trained shooters aimed at him before they could even blink and the other 200 armed men in the building (https://imgur.com/a/UV5sV2V).

Weather Wizard's able to cause well, weather phenomenon's including lightning which all the Rogues can react to as none of them are really portrayed as being able to truly outpace each other. The only real discrepancy being Captain Cold, whose the leader that has to freeze them should any in-fighting begin.

Mirror Master states the Speed of Light as "no so fast" due to how frequently they fight the Flash. And had stated how fighting anyone outside of Keystone City is akin to watching someone in slow-motion when he was fighting Wildcat (https://imgur.com/a/mi8NX4k).

Trickster isn't hit once despite having groups of men with automatic rifles firing at him in close-quarters, well until his arrogance finally gets him caught from behind by the mob (https://imgur.com/a/G9p8Gmu). Plugged up a gun with a flower before the shooter could pull the trigger.

The Renegades whom are a group from the 25th century stated the Rogues can keep up with the Flash moving at Lightspeed if they're fighting in open space, this statement is likely true given they've literally based their weapons and tactics using the group's history in order to fight so effectively when tricked into fighting the Flash in the present-day.

Also some other random typical low-Street tier Feats like getting up almost immediately after being blasted through multiple metal doors from a sonic boom (https://imgur.com/a/ue90ORI) and that time they shrugged off Weather Wizard's lighting blast all the way from a bunker up to the street without any kind of damage what so ever (https://imgur.com/a/MCAPTVR).

Edited by Candid-Jury on May 5th 2024 at 12:28:25 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84767: May 5th 2024 at 9:31:36 PM

I'd love to see them stat out whatever the heck is going on with The Top.

Like, heck, give me a Bat-rogues or Spidey-rogues vs Flash-rogues battle for no other reason than I want to see someone try to make sense of The Top.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 5th 2024 at 9:31:50 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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resident girlfail
#84768: May 5th 2024 at 10:08:10 PM

The Top is just straight up a herald tier, actually. My favorite for him is Whirlwind. It's so peak.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84769: May 5th 2024 at 10:13:38 PM

There is the odd caveat that he can't really die.

Like, I mostly just joke about him being a weirdo power-wise, but the fact that when he dies he can just immediately possess another body - possibly even his opponent's - probably disqualifies him from Death Battle no matter what.

I can't remember, do they ever explain why the fuck he can do that? Yadda yadda something about spinning I dunno.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 5th 2024 at 10:14:47 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
ImmaLelouch Since: Dec, 2012
#84770: May 6th 2024 at 10:10:33 AM

No one cares about Danzo other than people who use him for shitposting (like me). Everyone just hates him.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#84771: May 6th 2024 at 10:12:11 AM

I barely remember he exists

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#84772: May 6th 2024 at 10:21:07 AM

I do, but mainly due to thinking how much I hate his role in the narrative.

Mrbda241 Spectator Since: Feb, 2016
Spectator
#84773: May 6th 2024 at 1:42:22 PM

Who do you guys think be a good match up for Atreus of God of War?

I've seen names thrown out like Damien Wayne, Steven Universe, but other curve balls like Mirana of DOTA: Dragon's Blood and Invincible.

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
Like reflections in the glass!
#84774: May 6th 2024 at 4:28:18 PM

Marvel!Thor tongue. IIRC Altrus is fated to be Loki

a better curveball would be SMT!Satan as a contrast since he has a stint of opposing his father figure and ending up helping the heroes.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on May 6th 2024 at 4:30:38 AM

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#84775: May 6th 2024 at 4:58:57 PM

Zagreus from Hades would be a pretty fun one if they let him use all of his weapons instead of just one at a time.

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