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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#3377: Apr 29th 2024 at 11:32:32 PM

Re: Octopath, I separated the pages into supporting characters and antagonists.

She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#3378: Apr 30th 2024 at 5:42:00 PM

Double post but The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel is now showing the warning.

She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
Adembergz Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
#3380: May 1st 2024 at 12:08:47 AM

Maybe an alphabetical split?

A-M

N-Z

TroperNo9001 Space Molly Weasley from the Living Quarters Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#3381: May 1st 2024 at 11:32:35 AM

That One Achievement has the banner again.

"Anemone dear, I know you want to be more independent from me, but... please take care, okay?"
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3382: May 1st 2024 at 12:23:49 PM

[up] - First-Person Shooter: Halo seems pretty big?

Could pull out the Left 4 Dead series.

World of Warcraft probably is the biggest, though.

Ratchet & Clank

The Legend of Heroes: Trails

Paradox Interactive

Edited by Malady on May 1st 2024 at 12:32:41 PM

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FSharp Useful Note Since: Jan, 2019 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Useful Note
Adembergz Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#3385: May 2nd 2024 at 2:33:09 AM

Regarding That One Achievement, World of Warcraft is the biggest game/franchise split when I copy it to my sandbox at 152 KB. That sounds like a lot, but if I download my sandbox when it contains a single word, it's 140 KB, meaning WOW only accounts for 12 KB worth of HTML. (That One Achievement itself is 709 KB, which does include some extraneous content that doesn't count towards triggering the notice that my sandbox doesn't have, but which nonetheless suggests we'd need to split at least five games/franchises to stop it triggering the notice.) Are we at the point where we should split whole genres (assuming we shouldn't have been doing so all along)?

Edited by MorganWick on May 2nd 2024 at 2:35:59 AM

Adembergz Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
#3386: May 2nd 2024 at 3:11:10 AM

I say whole genres

Role-Playing Game seems like the longest but I'm not sure

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3387: May 2nd 2024 at 5:39:22 AM

I'd say we split by genre when there's no game that's long enough for its own page.

If the games are big enough, why not split them out?

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Adembergz Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
#3388: May 2nd 2024 at 5:54:05 AM

Idk if there's any one game yet still long enough, but I haven't gone over with a comb

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#3389: May 2nd 2024 at 8:24:06 AM

We could split by franchise, developer, or publisher.

Edited by Nen_desharu on May 2nd 2024 at 11:24:27 AM

Kirby is awesome.
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3391: May 3rd 2024 at 11:14:45 AM

Split by mooks vs. Bosses or by debut game?

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Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Riolugirl Rookie Trope Repairer from whence you came, you shall remain... (Experienced Trainee) Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
#3393: May 3rd 2024 at 1:04:51 PM

DamnYouMuscleMemory.Video Games is displaying the warning.

"As long as I have my comrades with me, I can do anything!" (She/Her) (Current Focus: Cleaning Hell Is That Noise misuse)
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3394: May 3rd 2024 at 1:10:30 PM

"First-Person and Third-Person Shooters" - The first 2 bullets being general is a concern...

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
BeerBaron from Pennsylvania Since: Mar, 2012
#3396: May 6th 2024 at 4:45:20 AM

^ Alphabetically. Split in two.

ToonAbby Uzume's back baby! from Racing Dogoo Game Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Uzume's back baby!
#3397: May 6th 2024 at 5:48:15 AM

Summary.Live Action Films have been displaying a warning for a while.

"The name's Uzume Tennouboshi! Yeah, it's pretty badass, I know." - Uzume, Megadimension Neptunia VII
Adembergz Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#3399: May 6th 2024 at 9:20:40 AM

Reposting from abandoned sandbox thread:

Sandbox.LGBT Representation In Media and Sandbox.X Men Title Team are both on Overly Long Pages. Do we still need them?

Adembergz Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
#3400: May 6th 2024 at 12:20:27 PM

Idk about the x men one but the lgbt rep one can be snipped


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