A thread discussing similar tropes. If thread participants agree that two (or more) tropes really don't seem distinct enough to be separate, one can start a thread in the Trope Repair Shop for further discussion.
Before asking "What's the difference between these tropes?", check the Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions and Laconical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions lists. They may contain the answer. Feel free to contribute to them, too.
I've decided to start a new cleanup thread dealing with trope similarities. This thread is for discussing tropes that appear to be a duplicate of another trope, and if it's agreed upon that the two tropes talked about are similar enough, one should start a thread about it in the Trope Repair Shop.
I'll start with my issue...
Asian Hooker Stereotype and Mighty Whitey and Mellow Yellow are pretty much the same trope—they both involve a white man and an Asian woman.
Edited by Tabs on Nov 1st 2022 at 10:57:37 AM
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Perhaps a merge should be considered? When looking at it bluntly, the main trope is 'two ore more villains team up'. The temporary vs permanent thing, like you said, just doesn't seem worthy as being two separate tropes. After all, why would villains team up without sharing a common agenda? I'm sure examples co-exist across these pages.
Edited by Ellipsicle on May 4th 2024 at 11:30:06 AM
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I'm sure that there's also the Big Bad part (The major villain that causes the conflict)
Big Bad Duumvirate implies that the two villains are the two major ones, and are on the same level of importance.
Villain Team-Up doesn't automatically imply that. The members of the team up can easily be all minor villains (or at the least the majority of them).
Edited by Omega1065 on May 7th 2024 at 8:43:15 PM
"We live in a society" - Winston Churchill, probably
The original YKTTW
seemed pretty clear on the definition and distinction with Villain Team-Up, but still attracted questionable examples.
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Is Kewpie Doll Surprise The Same, but More Specific to Human Hummingbird?
Edited by animuacid on May 5th 2024 at 12:12:38 PM
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Looks like it.
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It looks like Fourth Wall Myopia is when viewers complain about Aversions of Genre Savvy, and Audience Awareness Advantage is when viewers complain about Dramatic Irony.
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Edited by MorganWick on May 5th 2024 at 11:40:33 AM
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(4x) Already added Kewpie Doll Surprise to the TRS Queue, because in addition to that, it's from 2007 and not thriving.
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(x7) The difference explained seems rather arbitrary in my opinion. It feels like they could be merged with a 'Type A' and 'Type B' distinction if need be.
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Well, they can't since we don't do typelabels / trope subtypes anymore. (Soft splits are as far as we go and even those are being questioned)
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what do you think about these tropes?
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I'm not seeing any difference between Disney Dog Fight and Let Him Choose.
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^ Why does Let Him Choose list Disney Dog Fight as a contrast?
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I have no idea. It was added in 2014 without edit reason.
Disney Dog Fight lists Let Him Choose as "compare", which also was added without edit reason.
So I don't know.
I had the same question back when the one was the Featured Trope.
Edited by Codae on May 7th 2024 at 8:49:26 AM
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Both tropes have such a low wick count, I wouldn't be against an eventual merge. Preferably into Let Him Choose because Disney Dog Fight is a terrible name.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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I'd rather merge them both into a new page, because Let Him Choose isn't a very descriptive name either. It could refer to any kind of choice.
Edited by FSharp on May 7th 2024 at 1:50:19 PM
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You speak my mind.
I agree that Let Him Choose is a better name than Disney Dog Fight. The latter seems completely nonsensical to me, and I see no reason to for Disney to be there.
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I was thinking Let The Dog Choose as a clearer name?
Edited by Ellipsicle on May 8th 2024 at 9:16:11 AM
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No, that's not as clear, because the trope can involve a human child instead of a dog.
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It's clearly a reference to the other dog tropes (Pet the Dog, Shoot the Dog, Adopt the Dog, etc) none of which involve actual dogs.
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However as I actually read the descriptions of the tropes they do look redundant. Especially since the trope image for Big Bad Duumvirate depicts Magneto and Doom - two independent villains.