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Strentu50 Since: Apr, 2023
#2476: Oct 15th 2023 at 7:48:47 AM

Is Velma Dinkley from Velma scrappy?

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Antiyonder Since: Oct, 2011
#2478: Oct 15th 2023 at 1:23:01 PM

At any rate, made a thread for all discussion for Scooby-Doo comics here:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16973141640A16035900

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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#2479: Oct 16th 2023 at 4:49:03 PM

I found this video that has a more nuanced take on Velma tv series, The person on the video talks about representation, criticizes the criticisms of the show and how those things affected the perception of the show.

"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
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#2480: Oct 16th 2023 at 6:15:21 PM

I loved that video, I ironically while I dont think I will ever watch Velma, I LOVED THIS video and subscribed immediately.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2481: Oct 17th 2023 at 12:52:58 AM

Does the video go as far as saying Velma is Good, Actually?

Optimism is a duty.
Bec66 Since: Dec, 2016
#2482: Oct 17th 2023 at 6:28:13 AM

Not really, they just found the show mid and the criticism overblown. They do point out some of the show’s positives, aspects where they actually saw themselves in the show, and pushed back against some of the criticisms though.

Edited by Bec66 on Oct 17th 2023 at 9:28:45 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#2483: Oct 21st 2023 at 9:32:55 AM

I finally got around to watching that video, and it brought up an interesting point about adult cartoons, but I think that's where the issue lies.

I don't think that Velma was trying to be something like Family Guy. I think it was trying to be a Scooby-Doo teen drama, they namedrop Riverdale in the first episode. It's supposed to be a comedy-drama, it's just that the main source of Comedy was weird meta jokes, and the mystery elements are barely foreshadowed, and it's impossible to figure out the answer before episode nine of ten.

But if you're looking for Scooby-Doo if it was an adult cartoon, watch Mike Tyson Mysteries.

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#2484: Oct 28th 2023 at 9:16:01 AM

I know they're not as good as the original or Mystery Incorporated but I'm honestly confused that several people don't like these designs of the Hex Girls. I think they look passable.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hex_girls_with_haunted_guitar.png

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2485: Oct 28th 2023 at 11:10:46 AM

It's probably just a matter of taste. Googling them, I see a lot of design takes on them.

Optimism is a duty.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#2486: Oct 28th 2023 at 11:24:17 AM

I was never super fond of their original design (or overall concept, really - the "goths into witches and wiccans" thing in Witch's Ghost is super cringey and stunk of adult writers trying to relate to a youth movement they don't understand), but I do think they look better in better in series that allow them to have more of a color palate.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 28th 2023 at 11:25:11 AM

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#2487: Oct 31st 2023 at 9:47:29 PM

well, the look of the movie are more define and have this edgy 2000 look, this look more....bland.

[up][up][up][up]I mean is not much a mystery(hahahahaha), the writer did said they got inspired by harley queen show so one can said more or less what was their type of humor. But like family guy?....no

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RacattackForce Since: Aug, 2009
#2488: Apr 18th 2024 at 5:37:58 PM

...Velma season 2 drops next Thursday. I'm sorry that that was the bump.

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#2489: Apr 18th 2024 at 6:02:22 PM

[up] I'm guessing they took note of all the backlash the first season got because this one is near the point of Invisible Advertising.

Edited by Shoobedobah on Apr 18th 2024 at 9:02:31 AM

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#2490: Apr 18th 2024 at 7:09:26 PM

Warner Bros deciding not to Turn off Comments for that trailer is amazing. [lol]

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#2491: Apr 18th 2024 at 7:16:50 PM

So, Velma is legit bad, right? It's not just something the "culture warriors" hate? Sometimes it's hard to tell these days.

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#2492: Apr 18th 2024 at 7:28:39 PM

Basically, Everyone hates it.

It pretty much united the internet in how terrible it is.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2493: Apr 18th 2024 at 7:40:27 PM

Which is impressive.

Getting both the left and the right to agree on something would be a massive accomplishment in a lot of cases.

Velma being Hated by All is an Epic Fail.

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AFan Since: Nov, 2022
#2494: Apr 18th 2024 at 8:27:12 PM

[up]x5 and that they're released the trailer only 10 days before it comes out.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#2495: Apr 18th 2024 at 8:37:04 PM

Hopefully the people professing their hatred remember to, you know, not watch it.

Edited by Blueace on Apr 18th 2024 at 12:39:09 PM

Wake me up at your own risk.
Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#2496: Apr 18th 2024 at 9:28:18 PM

The trailer at the very least isn't nearly as insultingly awful as the Season 1 trailer, but I didn't watch Season 1 and I'm sure as hell not watching Season 2.

It's been 3000 years…
Antiyonder Since: Oct, 2011
#2497: Apr 20th 2024 at 3:08:39 PM

So back in the 90s, Velma kind of sorta appeared in the first story of Case Closed (Detective Conan):

https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Roller_Coaster_Murder_Case

Type in Reiko in the find option.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#2498: Apr 20th 2024 at 3:19:46 PM

We talking about this person?

Also, I remember that first case in the show, where a person got decapitated on a roller coaster, and for some reason instead of blood, a huge pillar of light shot out of the victim's neck.

TomWithoutJerry Since: Dec, 2023
#2499: Apr 20th 2024 at 3:32:13 PM

Hopefully the people professing their hatred remember to, you know, not watch it.

Reviewers need to watch it even if they hated it.

Antiyonder Since: Oct, 2011
#2500: Apr 20th 2024 at 5:00:08 PM

We talking about this person?◊

Yep. She had an additional bit in the manga version where she suggests the two men dressed in black (Gin and Vodka) could have pulled the murder off. Scene was included in the film variation of the story as well.

Reviewers need to watch it even if they hated it.

Some reviews are good and to an extent, but it arguably helps to pepper in some good viewing so as to demonstrate to Velma creators that generating hate isn't the most effective way to get success.


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