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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128451: Apr 16th 2024 at 8:03:41 AM

I have faith that Toriyama could make it interesting. He managed to roll with so many changes and got a coherent saga that is some people’s favorites despite the rough bits where it has to shift gears.

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#128452: Apr 16th 2024 at 8:19:18 AM

I mean....

The Villains are called Androids #19 and #20 -Those are the numbers Trunks uses-

which immediately makes you think Well What happened to 1-18?

Trunks already showed he doesn't known as much about the past as he should cause He jumped in to stop Frieza even though his mother most likely told him Goku stopped Frieza

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#128453: Apr 16th 2024 at 8:21:05 AM

I wonder how things went in to old timeline anyway, since Goku arrives after Frieza does.

[up][up] I dunno, I think the android saga benefited a lot from the rotating set of villains, from Dr. Gero, to Android 18 and 17, to Perfect Cell.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128454: Apr 16th 2024 at 8:29:09 AM

Well we already know 8 is a good Frankenstein

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#128455: Apr 16th 2024 at 8:43:33 AM

[up][up] IIRC some brief drawings showed that Goku IT'd to Earth and insta-killed Frieza and Cold but even faster than Trunks. The reason he didn't show up on Earth when they came in the main timeline was because he could feel Trunks' ki and knew he'd take care of business

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#128456: Apr 16th 2024 at 8:45:27 AM

Oh, that makes sense.

So he then dies from the heart virus despite the heroes having Dragon Balls.

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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#128457: Apr 16th 2024 at 8:56:16 AM

The Dragon Balls cannot revive someone who has died of natural causes. At least the Earth ones can't, don't know about the Namekian ones or the Super Dragon Balls. It's probable the Super Dragon Balls could do so.

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#128458: Apr 16th 2024 at 8:58:49 AM

But he died of a heart virus, that's not natural causes, a foreign contaminant killed Goku.

If he died because of his diet, then that's another thing.

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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#128459: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:01:01 AM

The heart virus is a disease, disease is natural. Even if he potentially picked it up from being in space, it's still the case.

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#128460: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:06:29 AM

On that note, I do recall there's a rule that the body had to be intact for the rez wish to work out.

Frieza came in pieces for a reason.

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#128461: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:10:44 AM

Krillin BLEW UP

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#128462: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:14:06 AM

So why did Frieza come in pieces? He was chopped and vaporized.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 17th 2024 at 12:14:12 AM

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128463: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:18:52 AM

If its been less then a year, Shenron can restore the body. If not, the body will be returned to the living world in whatever state it was in when they died.

...I'm pretty sure this was just a retcon for Resurrection F to allow Frieza to be revivable, but. Who cares?

And in Trunks' timeline, the fact that Goku died of a heart disease is only one part of the problem of the Dragon being able to revive him. The other issue is, this was the second time Goku had died. And at the time Shenron still kept to the "one revival only" rule...

Actually, wait, is that still a rule with Shenron? No one dies in Super, other then Frieza, so that's never really tested.

Edited by diddyknux on Apr 16th 2024 at 11:19:58 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128464: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:19:01 AM

Because dragon ball is inconsistent sometimes?

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#128465: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:24:12 AM

Piccolo dies in Super's version of Resurrection F, so.......

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128466: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:30:34 AM

Whoops. Sorry, Piccolo.

Edited by diddyknux on Apr 16th 2024 at 11:30:48 AM

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#128467: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:32:33 AM

That's the funny part because he didn't die in the film IIRC. So they might run into continuity issues, but ehhh.

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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#128468: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:35:40 AM

It's never made clear due to the difference between the film and the series as to whether the Earth Dragon Balls are used to revive Piccolo. Granted, it's also possible that via loophole abuse that the Earth Dragon Balls could resurrect Piccolo, because he's never been resurrected by the Earth's set before.

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128469: Apr 16th 2024 at 9:44:24 AM

Oh yeah. Its hard to keep track of all these balls.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#128470: Apr 16th 2024 at 11:51:36 AM

Freeza can only die due to disintegration.

Which means he wasn't dead when Trunks cut him up, just like he didn't die...when he got cut in half.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128471: Apr 16th 2024 at 11:57:46 AM

He was going to die if Goku hadn’t given him energy, I thought

Maybe

He survived getting blasted by Goku and then the planet blowing up in his face

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#128472: Apr 16th 2024 at 12:39:31 PM

I think frieza, cell and Buu can only be killed if disintegrated. Like each of them has a even more OP regenerative factor.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#128473: Apr 16th 2024 at 12:45:50 PM

[up][up]Frieza thought he'd be killed in the explosion of the planet.

He was wrong, since he tanked both that and Goku's blast before hand.

It seems that even he didn't realize how durable he was. Ironically enough, it's because he was afraid of being caught in his own blast that the entire five minutes until Namek explodes debacle even happened.

This is why he's able to instantly destroy Earth in both versions of Resurrection F. He's got a much better idea of what he can live through now.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Apr 16th 2024 at 12:46:02 PM

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Freshwater Since: Apr, 2023
#128474: Apr 16th 2024 at 12:50:05 PM

The big difference is that, unlike Cell and Buu, Frieza can't put himself back together again. He can survive as chunks, but if fiction is any indication that's not always a good thing.

Edited by Freshwater on Apr 16th 2024 at 12:50:38 PM

VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#128475: Apr 16th 2024 at 1:03:29 PM

[up] Funnily that's why he opposed getting immortality now, he can't insta-regenerate but he knows that not being able to die and not being able to be hurt are two different things and one of them can be much worse than the other when it comes to suffering

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