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** ''Here's Lucy'' was the spiritual successor to this show.
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** ''Here's Lucy'' ''Series/HeresLucy'' was the spiritual successor to this show.
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* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: Viv’s wedding to Vern Bunson, which occurs between seasons three and four and only receives a brief mention by Lucy in the season premiere. Many fans have expressed disappointment this plot wasn’t incorporated into the third season, thus giving Vivian Vance a proper sendoff.
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* SpiritualSuccessor:
** Developed as the follow-up to ''Series/ILoveLucy'', initially featuring not only Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance but many of the same writers and behind-the-scenes personnel.
** ''Here's Lucy'' was the spiritual successor to this show.
** Developed as the follow-up to ''Series/ILoveLucy'', initially featuring not only Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance but many of the same writers and behind-the-scenes personnel.
** ''Here's Lucy'' was the spiritual successor to this show.
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* ValuesDissonance: Lucille Ball's characterization of a Japanese gardener in "Lucy & The Soap Opera," complete with "chop suey specs" and false teeth, plus a highly exaggerated Asian accent, marks one of the rare occasions where her comedy became racially insensitive by today's standards. No performer could ever get away with such an impersonation in the modern world.
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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
** Lucille Ball's characterization of a Japanese gardener in "Lucy & The Soap Opera," complete with "chop suey specs" and false teeth, plus a highly exaggerated Asian accent, marks one of the rare occasions where her comedy became racially insensitive by today's standards. No performer could ever get away with such an impersonation in the modernworld.world.
** Another episode has Lucy disguise herself as a Mexican cleaner, complete with a terrible attempt at a stereotypical Mexican accent. Such a thing would not be done today.
** Lucille Ball's characterization of a Japanese gardener in "Lucy & The Soap Opera," complete with "chop suey specs" and false teeth, plus a highly exaggerated Asian accent, marks one of the rare occasions where her comedy became racially insensitive by today's standards. No performer could ever get away with such an impersonation in the modern
** Another episode has Lucy disguise herself as a Mexican cleaner, complete with a terrible attempt at a stereotypical Mexican accent. Such a thing would not be done today.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Viv's complaints about her ex-husband Ralph are funny, but notice she only badmouths him to Lucy. She never speaks ill of Ralph in front of their son Sherman, or Lucy's children (no matter how much her grievances are likely justified!). Viv's playing the role of a responsible parent, careful not to turn Sherman against his father and/or bringing up bad memories.
* HarsherInHindsight: While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz (even more if they have in mind Vivian Vance and William Frawley's infamous hostility towards each other), the later revelation that one of Vance's actual ex-husbands (Phil Ober) was abusive towards her can add a darker layer to these lines.
* HarsherInHindsight: While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz (even more if they have in mind Vivian Vance and William Frawley's infamous hostility towards each other), the later revelation that one of Vance's actual ex-husbands (Phil Ober) was abusive towards her can add a darker layer to these lines.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Viv's complaints about her ex-husband Ralph are funny, but notice she only badmouths him to Lucy. She never speaks ill of Ralph in front of their son Sherman, or Lucy's children (no matter how much her grievances are likely justified!). Viv's playing the role of a responsible parent, careful not to turn Sherman against his father and/or bringing bring up bad memories.
*HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
** While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz (even more if they have in mind Vivian Vance and William Frawley's infamous hostility towards each other), the later revelation that one of Vance's actual ex-husbands (Phil Ober) was abusive towards her can add a darker layer to theselines.lines.
** Jimmy Garrett, the youngest of the child actors ever to play one of Lucy’s onscreen children, was the first to die on September 17th, 2021.
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** While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz (even more if they have in mind Vivian Vance and William Frawley's infamous hostility towards each other), the later revelation that one of Vance's actual ex-husbands (Phil Ober) was abusive towards her can add a darker layer to these
** Jimmy Garrett, the youngest of the child actors ever to play one of Lucy’s onscreen children, was the first to die on September 17th, 2021.
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* SeasonalRot: The last couple of seasons suffer from an over reliance on guest stars, which often led to Lucy playing second banana to that episode's SpecialGuest.
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* SeasonalRot: The last couple of seasons suffer from an over reliance over-reliance on guest stars, which often led to Lucy playing second banana to that episode's SpecialGuest.
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* ToughActToFollow: Ball chose to play a widow in this and all her subsequent sitcoms, knowing that any actor who played her husband would be unfavorably compared with Desi Arnaz.
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* {{Tearjerker}}: The episode with Lucy's Aunt Agatha is surprisingly very sad after TheReveal. It turns out Agatha is a poor and lonely old widow who pretends to be rich so her family will give her a place to stay.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Viv's complaints about her ex-husband Ralph are funny, but notice she only badmouths him to Lucy. She never badmouths speaks ill of Ralph in front of their son Sherman, or Lucy's children (no matter how much her grievances are likely justified!). Viv's playing the role of a responsible parent, careful not to turn Sherman against his father and/or bringing up bad memories.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Viv's putdowns of complaints about her ex-husband Ralph are funny, but notice she only badmouths him to Lucy. She never complains about badmouths Ralph in front of their son Sherman, or Lucy's children (no matter how much her complaints grievances are likely justified!). Viv's playing the role of a responsible parent, careful not to turn Sherman against his father and/or bringing up bad memories.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Viv lying about her age for her driver’s license in “Lucy, The Meter Maid,” after it was revealed Vivian Vance actually DID shave three years off her birthdate, claiming to have been born in 1912 instead of 1909.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Viv lying about her age for her driver’s license in “Lucy, The Meter Maid,” after it was revealed because Vivian Vance actually DID shave three years off her birthdate, claiming to have been born in 1912 instead of 1909.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Viv lying about her age for her driver’s license in “Lucy, The Meter Maid,” after it was revealed Vivian Vance actually DID shave three years off her birthdate, claiming to have been born in 1912 instead of 1909.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Viv's putdowns of her ex-husband Ralph are funny, but notice she only badmouths him to Lucy. She never complains about Ralph in front of Sherman, or Lucy's children.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Viv's putdowns of her ex-husband Ralph are funny, but notice she only badmouths him to Lucy. She never complains about Ralph in front of their son Sherman, or Lucy's children.children (no matter how much her complaints are likely justified!). Viv's playing the role of a responsible parent, careful not to turn Sherman against his father and/or bringing up bad memories.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Viv's putdowns of her ex-husband Ralph are funny, but notice she only badmouths him to Lucy. She never complains about Ralph in front of Sherman, or Lucy's children.
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* ToughActToFollow: Ball chose to play a widow in this and all her subsequent sitcoms, knowing that any actor who played her husband would be unfavorably compared with Desi Arnaz.
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* HarsherInHindsight: While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz (even more if they have in mind Vivian Vance and William Frawley's infamous hostility towards each other), the later revelation that one of Vivian Vance's actual ex-husbands (Phil Ober) was abusive towards her can add a darker layer to these lines.
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* HarsherInHindsight: While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz (even more if they have in mind Vivian Vance and William Frawley's infamous hostility towards each other), the later revelation that one of Vivian Vance's actual ex-husbands (Phil Ober) was abusive towards her can add a darker layer to these lines.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans prefer seasons 1-3 over 4-6, mostly due to Vivian Vance's involvement and generally stronger writing. Even those who do enjoy the California episodes acknowledge that the changes made were so significant that it basically became an entirely different series.
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** Stafford Repp (Chief O'Hara from ''Series/{{Batman}}'') appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
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** Stafford Repp (Chief O'Hara from ''Series/{{Batman}}'') ''Series/{{Batman|1966}}'') appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
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* HarsherInHindsight: While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz, the later revelation that one of Vivian Vance's actual ex-husbands (Phil Ober) was abusive towards her can add a darker layer to these lines.
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* HarsherInHindsight: While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz, Mertz (even more if they have in mind Vivian Vance and William Frawley's infamous hostility towards each other), the later revelation that one of Vivian Vance's actual ex-husbands (Phil Ober) was abusive towards her can add a darker layer to these lines.
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* HarsherInHindsight: While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz, the later revelation that one of Vivian Vance's actual ex-husbands, Phil Ober, was abusive towards her, can add a darker layer to these lines.
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* HarsherInHindsight: While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz, the later revelation that one of Vivian Vance's actual ex-husbands, Phil Ober, ex-husbands (Phil Ober) was abusive towards her, her can add a darker layer to these lines.
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*HarsherInHindsight: While Viv's putdowns of ex-husband Ralph Bagley are funny if audiences think of Fred Mertz, the later revelation that one of Vivian Vance's actual ex-husbands, Phil Ober, was abusive towards her, can add a darker layer to these lines.
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** Modern viewers may not realize Candy Moore was the model for Music/TheCars' ''Candy-O'' album cover (which was, coincidentally, NOT named after her).
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** Modern viewers Fans of Music/TheCars may not realize that Candy Moore was the model for Music/TheCars' their ''Candy-O'' album cover (which was, coincidentally, NOT named after her).
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** Stafford Repp from ''Series/{{Batman}}'' appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
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** Stafford Repp (Chief O'Hara from ''Series/{{Batman}}'' ''Series/{{Batman}}'') appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
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* SeasonalRot: The last couple of seasons suffer from an over reliance on guest stars, which often led to Lucy playing second banana to that episode's SpecialGuest.
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* SeasonalRot: The last couple of seasons suffer from an over reliance on guest stars, which often led to Lucy playing second banana to that episode's SpecialGuest.SpecialGuest.
* ValuesDissonance: Lucille Ball's characterization of a Japanese gardener in "Lucy & The Soap Opera," complete with "chop suey specs" and false teeth, plus a highly exaggerated Asian accent, marks one of the rare occasions where her comedy became racially insensitive by today's standards. No performer could ever get away with such an impersonation in the modern world.
* ValuesDissonance: Lucille Ball's characterization of a Japanese gardener in "Lucy & The Soap Opera," complete with "chop suey specs" and false teeth, plus a highly exaggerated Asian accent, marks one of the rare occasions where her comedy became racially insensitive by today's standards. No performer could ever get away with such an impersonation in the modern world.
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** Modern viewers may not realize Candy Moore was the model for Music/TheCars' ''Candy-O'' album cover (which was NOT named after her).
** Dick Martin from ''Series/RowanAndMartinsLaughIn'' and Stafford Repp from ''Series/{{Batman}}'' appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
** Dick Martin from ''Series/RowanAndMartinsLaughIn'' and Stafford Repp from ''Series/{{Batman}}'' appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
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** Modern viewers may not realize Candy Moore was the model for Music/TheCars' ''Candy-O'' album cover (which was was, coincidentally, NOT named after her).
** Dick Martin from ''Series/RowanAndMartinsLaughIn''and was a recurring character during the first season.
** Stafford Repp from ''Series/{{Batman}}'' appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
** Dick Martin from ''Series/RowanAndMartinsLaughIn''
** Stafford Repp from ''Series/{{Batman}}'' appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
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** Modern viewers may not realize Candy Moore was the model for Music/TheCars' ''Candy-O'' album cover (which was NOT named after her).
** Dick Martin from ''Series/RowanAndMartinsLaughIn'' and Stafford Repp from ''Series/{{Batman}}'' appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
** Modern viewers may not realize Candy Moore was the model for Music/TheCars' ''Candy-O'' album cover (which was NOT named after her).
** Dick Martin from ''Series/RowanAndMartinsLaughIn'' and Stafford Repp from ''Series/{{Batman}}'' appeared in "Lucy and Viv Put in a Shower".
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* SeasonalRot: The last couple of seasons suffer from an over reliance on guest stars, which often led to Lucy playing second banana to that episode's SpecialGuest.
